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Welcome to ’So What?” with Michael and Trevor as they invites us on a journey of big ideas. Join them as they talk about their mission to dig into thought-provoking ideas through diverse experiences of wisdom and voices. They bring a spacious perspective, a heap of curiosity, and a deep desires to see big ideas actually ’matter’ and be embodied in real life. Let’s be real - ideas can be fascinating, however if big ideas don’t lead us to more love, more peace, and more beautiful connections in the world - ’so what!’ Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes. This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.
Welcome to ’So What?” with Michael and Trevor as they invites us on a journey of big ideas. Join them as they talk about their mission to dig into thought-provoking ideas through diverse experiences of wisdom and voices. They bring a spacious perspective, a heap of curiosity, and a deep desires to see big ideas actually ’matter’ and be embodied in real life. Let’s be real - ideas can be fascinating, however if big ideas don’t lead us to more love, more peace, and more beautiful connections in the world - ’so what!’ Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes. This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.
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Monday Apr 27, 2026
Episode 11 - Featuring Michael Rose and Uncontrolling Love
Monday Apr 27, 2026
Monday Apr 27, 2026
So What? Exploring Big Ideas and Why They Matter
Welcome to Episode 11 - Uncontrolling Love
We are excited to explore with Michael his new book: Made by Love for Love: Reimagining God, Power, and Faith in the Light of Relentless Love. Made by Love for Love, invites readers to reimagine Christianity - not as a drama of sin and obligatory appeasing sacrifice, but as a cosmic love story still unfolding.
Michael Rose is a spiritual director, grief specialist, and theologian who’s spent over three decades walking with people through the beautiful, messy realities of faith, loss, and transformation—and occasionally trying to make sense of it himself. His work explores what happens when we take love seriously, drawing on Open and Relational Theology and the evolutionary vision of Teilhard de Chardin. He’s the author of Made by Love, For Love: Reimagining God, Power, and Faith in Light of Relentless Love, where he gently (and sometimes provocatively) rethinks the stories we’ve inherited about God. Michael lives in Alberta, Canada, and supports individuals and communities in seasons of spiritual reimagining.
To order Michael's new book go to: https://www.amazon.ca/Made-Love-Reimagining-Power-Relentless/dp/1968136401/
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Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes.
This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.

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