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Welcome to ’So What?” with Michael and Trevor as they invites us on a journey of big ideas. Join them as they talk about their mission to dig into thought-provoking ideas through diverse experiences of wisdom and voices. They bring a spacious perspective, a heap of curiosity, and a deep desires to see big ideas actually ’matter’ and be embodied in real life. Let’s be real - ideas can be fascinating, however if big ideas don’t lead us to more love, more peace, and more beautiful connections in the world - ’so what!’ Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes. This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.
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Thursday May 29, 2025
Episode 5 - The Balcony View: Exploring Inclusive Love as a Queer Ally
Thursday May 29, 2025
Thursday May 29, 2025
So What? Exploring Big Ideas and Why They Matter
Welcome to Episode 5 as we join Michael and Trevor from the balcony, like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets - as they explore the last episode’s big ideas and why they matter.
This week Michael and Trevor explore the amazing ideas of author, educator, and podcaster Michael Brennan of what it means to really inhabit these 'big' ideas about inclusive love as a queer ally.
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Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes.
This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.
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